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		<title>Comment on Bushy Park deer warning by tteditor</title>
		<link>http://teddingtontown.co.uk/2012/05/25/bushy-park-deer-warning/#comment-2684</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2012 12:26:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Steve - sounds sensible to avoid the park at the moment until the deer don&#039;t feel so threatened by dogs. Interesting about hay being put down, I wonder if this is related to the drought conditions or just general food supply.

I checked out the general deer warning signs last night and although they mention to not approach the deer particularly during birthing/rutting seasons, they don&#039;t say at all that park users and particularly those with dogs are at risk from being charged even when stay well away from deer.

I personally believe there should be more stark warnings particularly around May with information about what attacks could happen - dog walkers should know of the risks so they can decide for themselves where they should visit in the park (if at all).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Steve &#8211; sounds sensible to avoid the park at the moment until the deer don&#8217;t feel so threatened by dogs. Interesting about hay being put down, I wonder if this is related to the drought conditions or just general food supply.</p>
<p>I checked out the general deer warning signs last night and although they mention to not approach the deer particularly during birthing/rutting seasons, they don&#8217;t say at all that park users and particularly those with dogs are at risk from being charged even when stay well away from deer.</p>
<p>I personally believe there should be more stark warnings particularly around May with information about what attacks could happen &#8211; dog walkers should know of the risks so they can decide for themselves where they should visit in the park (if at all).</p>
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		<title>Comment on Bushy Park deer warning by tteditor</title>
		<link>http://teddingtontown.co.uk/2012/05/25/bushy-park-deer-warning/#comment-2682</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2012 11:49:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Official response from FBHP chair:

It is, of course, very sad when a dog is killed in the park by a deer.  Warning notices regarding the deer behaviour are at every gate and car park.  Sometimes a lone female deer will attack from a long way off.  FBHP support the Royal Parks in their advice to avoid certain areas of the park during this time of year, and always keep dogs on leads whenever there are deer in the distance.  This time of year when the young are being born is a very stressful time for the hinds and does.  The bracken is not very high this year, so there is less cover for the mothers to leave their young. Deer are wild animals and the park is their home.  We humans have to be aware of that and take great care that we leave the deer with enough space, so that they don’t feel the need to attack.  Female deer naturally regard dogs as predators and defend their precious young accordingly.
 
FBHP support The Royal Parks in the way they manage the deer.  It is a fallacy to say that the deer will find their natural level and will produce no more young.  The deer now have no natural predators.  They are contained within a walled park where there is only enough food to sustain a certain number of deer.  There are 350 deer in Bushy and they are healthy because they are reduced in numbers each year, so that there is enough food and territory to go round for 350 deer.  No one likes to see animals killed, but if the alternative is that they get diseases and starve to death, the humane way of dealing with this is to cull.  It is not practical to move excess deer to alternative locations.  The places are very limited in number and cause the deer great distress.  Deer have actually died from stress while being moved in the past. Hormone birth control methods cannot be used within the circumstance of the Bushy Park deer herd.
 
FBHP’s aims are to help care for and enhance the park for everyone and that includes the flora and fauna as well as the public who enjoy this wonderful parkland.  A great part of that enjoyment is the deer herds, and they need to be cared for and kept safe as do the users of the park]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Official response from FBHP chair:</p>
<p>It is, of course, very sad when a dog is killed in the park by a deer.  Warning notices regarding the deer behaviour are at every gate and car park.  Sometimes a lone female deer will attack from a long way off.  FBHP support the Royal Parks in their advice to avoid certain areas of the park during this time of year, and always keep dogs on leads whenever there are deer in the distance.  This time of year when the young are being born is a very stressful time for the hinds and does.  The bracken is not very high this year, so there is less cover for the mothers to leave their young. Deer are wild animals and the park is their home.  We humans have to be aware of that and take great care that we leave the deer with enough space, so that they don’t feel the need to attack.  Female deer naturally regard dogs as predators and defend their precious young accordingly.</p>
<p>FBHP support The Royal Parks in the way they manage the deer.  It is a fallacy to say that the deer will find their natural level and will produce no more young.  The deer now have no natural predators.  They are contained within a walled park where there is only enough food to sustain a certain number of deer.  There are 350 deer in Bushy and they are healthy because they are reduced in numbers each year, so that there is enough food and territory to go round for 350 deer.  No one likes to see animals killed, but if the alternative is that they get diseases and starve to death, the humane way of dealing with this is to cull.  It is not practical to move excess deer to alternative locations.  The places are very limited in number and cause the deer great distress.  Deer have actually died from stress while being moved in the past. Hormone birth control methods cannot be used within the circumstance of the Bushy Park deer herd.</p>
<p>FBHP’s aims are to help care for and enhance the park for everyone and that includes the flora and fauna as well as the public who enjoy this wonderful parkland.  A great part of that enjoyment is the deer herds, and they need to be cared for and kept safe as do the users of the park</p>
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		<title>Comment on Bushy Park deer warning by Steve</title>
		<link>http://teddingtontown.co.uk/2012/05/25/bushy-park-deer-warning/#comment-2680</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2012 09:55:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve been using the park for walking my dig for a year now.  This last few weeks have been very difficult. I would consider myself a responsible owner, my dog is always on a flexible lead and I always maintain a very healthy distance from the deer soas not to distress them. My dog has no interest in the deer, only rabbits. In the last week I&#039;ve been charged at twice and I&#039;ve had a herd of deer run across a field to chase me. My dog was kicked by  a deer despite my efforts to leave the area.  The deer are very aggressive at the moment, and I&#039;ve heard a story about a young deer being mauled by a dog. 

I don&#039;t agree with animal cruelty, however a cull is necessary due to a complete lack of predators in the park. Natural ways of controlling populations will result in starvation and significant habitat destruction. Have you seen the damage a stag does to a tree when marking his territory? Ever wondered why the trees have protection around them?

I noted earlier this year there wasn&#039;t sufficient food for the deer with the population and the rangers had to supplement their food with hay. 
Supplying food isn&#039;t the answer, a cull (as unpleasant as it is) is. 

Regarding the attacks, I&#039;m going to avoid the park for a few weeks until the bracken has grown enough to provide cover. I thing other dog owners should consider doing the same. It&#039;s not the deer&#039;s fault, they are protecting their families much as anyone else would. They don&#039;t have recourse to language, courts or law, they can only use physical force.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been using the park for walking my dig for a year now.  This last few weeks have been very difficult. I would consider myself a responsible owner, my dog is always on a flexible lead and I always maintain a very healthy distance from the deer soas not to distress them. My dog has no interest in the deer, only rabbits. In the last week I&#8217;ve been charged at twice and I&#8217;ve had a herd of deer run across a field to chase me. My dog was kicked by  a deer despite my efforts to leave the area.  The deer are very aggressive at the moment, and I&#8217;ve heard a story about a young deer being mauled by a dog. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t agree with animal cruelty, however a cull is necessary due to a complete lack of predators in the park. Natural ways of controlling populations will result in starvation and significant habitat destruction. Have you seen the damage a stag does to a tree when marking his territory? Ever wondered why the trees have protection around them?</p>
<p>I noted earlier this year there wasn&#8217;t sufficient food for the deer with the population and the rangers had to supplement their food with hay.<br />
Supplying food isn&#8217;t the answer, a cull (as unpleasant as it is) is. </p>
<p>Regarding the attacks, I&#8217;m going to avoid the park for a few weeks until the bracken has grown enough to provide cover. I thing other dog owners should consider doing the same. It&#8217;s not the deer&#8217;s fault, they are protecting their families much as anyone else would. They don&#8217;t have recourse to language, courts or law, they can only use physical force.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Bushy Park deer warning by Lesley Dove</title>
		<link>http://teddingtontown.co.uk/2012/05/25/bushy-park-deer-warning/#comment-2655</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lesley Dove]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 May 2012 08:00:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Royal Parks has a board of directors which does NOT include a wildlife or ecology expert within their number - even the Friends of Bushy Park (which supports the cull) has raised concerns about this lack of relevant expert input on the board. A relevant expert might be able to remind them that deer will (like any other wildlife) find their own balance of population numbers within the area they occupy, depending on space and food available.
The Royal Parks are too arrogant to even take into consideration the feelings of the public about the cull!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Royal Parks has a board of directors which does NOT include a wildlife or ecology expert within their number &#8211; even the Friends of Bushy Park (which supports the cull) has raised concerns about this lack of relevant expert input on the board. A relevant expert might be able to remind them that deer will (like any other wildlife) find their own balance of population numbers within the area they occupy, depending on space and food available.<br />
The Royal Parks are too arrogant to even take into consideration the feelings of the public about the cull!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Bushy Park deer warning by tteditor</title>
		<link>http://teddingtontown.co.uk/2012/05/25/bushy-park-deer-warning/#comment-2648</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2012 18:50:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The general public don&#039;t decide if the cull goes ahead or not and any  &quot;demonising&quot; won&#039;t affect it either way.

Park rangers have in-depth experience with animal health and ecosystem behaviour to decide how many deer need to be culled each year to maintain the population and ensure it doesn&#039;t develop issues that will threaten its very existence.

If you step back for a second, you will realise that this article and comments from the person affected are stating is that everyone should stay well away from the deer at this time of the year - this isn&#039;t related to the cull.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The general public don&#8217;t decide if the cull goes ahead or not and any  &#8220;demonising&#8221; won&#8217;t affect it either way.</p>
<p>Park rangers have in-depth experience with animal health and ecosystem behaviour to decide how many deer need to be culled each year to maintain the population and ensure it doesn&#8217;t develop issues that will threaten its very existence.</p>
<p>If you step back for a second, you will realise that this article and comments from the person affected are stating is that everyone should stay well away from the deer at this time of the year &#8211; this isn&#8217;t related to the cull.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Bushy Park deer warning by Lesley Dove</title>
		<link>http://teddingtontown.co.uk/2012/05/25/bushy-park-deer-warning/#comment-2647</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lesley Dove]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2012 18:36:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The deer cull is very much related since this is just the sort of demonising of the deer that leads to ppl supporting the cull! I am sorry a puppy died but it will not be brought back by giving the deer the death penalty.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The deer cull is very much related since this is just the sort of demonising of the deer that leads to ppl supporting the cull! I am sorry a puppy died but it will not be brought back by giving the deer the death penalty.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Bushy Park deer warning by tteditor</title>
		<link>http://teddingtontown.co.uk/2012/05/25/bushy-park-deer-warning/#comment-2645</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2012 11:47:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So sorry Ivan, this must be very upsetting for you. I wanted however to post this news to raise awareness of the issues in the park that occur at certain time of the year. Thank you for your comment &amp; clarification.

I have personally written to Royal Parks about having more obvious warning signs and clearer indications of how dangerous the deer can be - most people simply aren&#039;t aware and just think they are as friendly now as they at other times of the year.

Royal Parks &amp; the Police that cover the park are very quiet about deer attacks and I have never had any information back from them or the police about how often they happen despite hearing of near misses each year and also people being charged from a distance &amp; gored to the point of  time spent in hospital. Despite this, no additional action has been taken to make park users more aware of the dangers or this particular deer&#039;s behaviour.

Lesley, I have removed your comment about the deer cull because it&#039;s not related.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So sorry Ivan, this must be very upsetting for you. I wanted however to post this news to raise awareness of the issues in the park that occur at certain time of the year. Thank you for your comment &amp; clarification.</p>
<p>I have personally written to Royal Parks about having more obvious warning signs and clearer indications of how dangerous the deer can be &#8211; most people simply aren&#8217;t aware and just think they are as friendly now as they at other times of the year.</p>
<p>Royal Parks &amp; the Police that cover the park are very quiet about deer attacks and I have never had any information back from them or the police about how often they happen despite hearing of near misses each year and also people being charged from a distance &amp; gored to the point of  time spent in hospital. Despite this, no additional action has been taken to make park users more aware of the dangers or this particular deer&#8217;s behaviour.</p>
<p>Lesley, I have removed your comment about the deer cull because it&#8217;s not related.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Bushy Park deer warning by Stephen</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stephen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2012 10:23:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[looks like a nice park, would have considered visiting but if there are dangerous deer nearby don&#039;t think i will bother]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>looks like a nice park, would have considered visiting but if there are dangerous deer nearby don&#8217;t think i will bother</p>
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		<title>Comment on Bushy Park deer warning by Stephen</title>
		<link>http://teddingtontown.co.uk/2012/05/25/bushy-park-deer-warning/#comment-2642</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stephen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2012 10:21:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[those poor dogs :-(  , i imagine their owners are distraught and very angry,  i would be livid if i was walking my dog and it was attacked or killed by a deer]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>those poor dogs <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' />   , i imagine their owners are distraught and very angry,  i would be livid if i was walking my dog and it was attacked or killed by a deer</p>
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		<title>Comment on Bushy Park deer warning by Ivan Lowe</title>
		<link>http://teddingtontown.co.uk/2012/05/25/bushy-park-deer-warning/#comment-2640</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ivan Lowe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2012 07:05:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It was our puppy that was killed this week.  We are deeply distressed by the incident and find your comments wholly inappropriate Lesley.  Our dogs were on a lead and being walked on a path in a thoroughly responsible manner.  A deer came running out of the grass from some 100 yards to attack them and it was over almost as soon as it had begun.

We don&#039;t blame the deer - but our six month old puppy - innocent to the world as a puppy could be - is dead through no fault of his or our making.

We were extremely fortunate that it was just our puppy that died and no human fatality arose too.  Do we need that to occur before the park takes such attacks seriously.

I am not suggesting the park should be closed or the deer be removed but I believe better signage within the park is called for at this time of year and for particularly aggressive deer to be controlled.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was our puppy that was killed this week.  We are deeply distressed by the incident and find your comments wholly inappropriate Lesley.  Our dogs were on a lead and being walked on a path in a thoroughly responsible manner.  A deer came running out of the grass from some 100 yards to attack them and it was over almost as soon as it had begun.</p>
<p>We don&#8217;t blame the deer &#8211; but our six month old puppy &#8211; innocent to the world as a puppy could be &#8211; is dead through no fault of his or our making.</p>
<p>We were extremely fortunate that it was just our puppy that died and no human fatality arose too.  Do we need that to occur before the park takes such attacks seriously.</p>
<p>I am not suggesting the park should be closed or the deer be removed but I believe better signage within the park is called for at this time of year and for particularly aggressive deer to be controlled.</p>
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